WWII Women and Film


Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 17:36:56 -0400
Subj: WWII Women and Film
From:
Elizabeth Ann Penn-Grove

I am going to be expanding my senior thesis which was regarding Women Who Served in the Military during WWII to include the depiction of military women in films which were made during the WWII era ... would members of the list please suggest films I may watch in order to bring this subject into my research ... I know that most films depicted women who served as "looking for a husband", but from my previous research I find that in "real life" this was not true ... I want to dispel the myths of the WWII movies that depicted military women as sluts and whores. Also, do any of you know of movies that depicted women in a positive light? Any help you can give is appreciated!!

Liz Penn-Grove
egrove@sun1.iusb.edu
Indiana University-South Bend


Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 17:57:17 -0400
From: Jane Beckman

I don't know if it would be in the scope of your thesis, but I could recommend a movie made *after* the war, "Operation Pacific," which is a fairly accurate view of the "Silent Service" (the submarine service in the Pacific). Patricia Neal plays a military nurse whose ex-husband (John Wayne) is a subber. It was made in 1951, with memories of the war still very fresh. Very positive portrayal of a strong woman in the military.

Eons ago, I seem to recall seeing a film in which Katherine Hepburn played a nurse captured by the Japanese, who kills her captors (and herself) with a grenade, allowing the other nurses to escape. Does anyone else recall this film and its title, or am I hallucinating, since I recall seeing it on late night TV about 30 years ago?

Jane Beckman


Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 17:57:21 -0400
From: Gene Moser

>>>>I want to dispel the myths of the WWII movies that depicted military women as sluts and whores. Also, do any of you know of movies that depicted women in a positive light?

How about South Pacific?
While they were hardly major characters, the nurses in Bridge on the River Kwai . (Oh, God. Now you have me whistling the march - I was in military school when that was released and it was a very favorite march for the band.)

Gene Moser


Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 17:57:26 -0400
From: Yvonne Klein

It isn't clear from your post whether you are interested only in fiction films, but if not, WWII recruiting films are interesting. The NFB of Canada produced a package of archival films about 15 years ago which includes several the NFB made in its early days encouraging women to enlist. I think the present title of the package is "Women of the 40's & 50's. In any event, it should be readily available from the National Film Board.

Best, Yvonne Klein


Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 18:32:36 -0400
From: Ken or Sharon Wildwind

There is a movie about nurses who served in Battan and Corridor. I believe it ends with one of the nurses throwing herself on a hand grenade and the rest being marched off to a POW camp.

Sharon Wildwind
Calgary, Alberta


Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 18:32:36 -0400
From: DeAnne Blanton

Liz Penn-Grove wrote "I am going to be expanding my senior thesis...to include the depiction of military women in films which were made during the WWII era ... do any of you know of movies that depicted women in a positive light?"

Liz,
I don't know if you want to include this type of film, but, the various propaganda and recruitment films put out by the Armed Forces during WWII are quite positive towards women's military aspirations. Some training films for WACs also exist, I believe. If you want more info., contact me at deanne.blanton@arch1.nara.gov

DeAnne Blanton


Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 19:56:13 -0400
From: Jane Rosenzweig

I think the film about nurses that Sharon Wildwind mentions is called "So Proudly We Hail."
I think it stars Claudette Colbert, Veronica Lake, and others --definitely worth watching.
There's certainly plenty in there to think about in terms of portrayal of military women.

Good luck.
Jane Rosenzweig


Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 19:56:17 -0400
From: Gene Moser

Jane Beckman wrote>>>>Eons ago, I seem to recall seeing a film in which Katherine Hepburn played a nurse captured by the Japanese, who kills her captors (and herself) with a grenade, allowing the other nurses to escape. Does anyone else recall this film and its title, or am I hallucinating, since I recall seeing it on late night TV about 30 years ago?

Jane Beckman

You weren't - I've seen it too. Was it The Inn of the Seventh Happiness ?

Gene Moser


Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 08:50:04 -0400
From: Vickie Riggan

Yes, the film about nurses in Phlippines is "So Proudly We Hail" and Veronica Lake gives her all by walking into the crowd of Jap. soldiers with a live grenade. A movie I have only read about but would like to find a copy of is "Ladies Courageous" about the WAFS, the WASP forerunners. Thomas Doherty wrote "Projections of War" in 1992 and includes a very good chapter about the depiction of women in movies made during the war. He deals with civilian as well as military but gives good mention to the military. Still, there are some typical Hollywood flagwavers like "Skirts Ahoy" "Here Come The Waves" and "Keep Your Powder Dry" which all supposedly show all the reasons a girl joins up (in short, watch out for the one married girl in the group who's making plans for when her pilot husband comes home - he won't). Also, some standard farce made after the war like "I Was A Male War Bride" and "Francis Joins the WAC". It's an interesting subject and I'd like to see how your project comes out. Good luck.

Vickie Riggan


Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 08:50:15 -0400
From: Kenneth Schlessinger

Thought the list might be interested in the following, which is a series of records in the Bureau of Public Relations of the Office of the Secretary of War (Record Group 107) [Each File usually contains a copy of the script, and correspondence between the War Department and the studio about various aspects of the film]:

RG 107
RECORDS OF THE OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OF WAR

Entry 354
Bureau of Public Relations
Correspondence Relating to Motion Pictures With MilitaryThemes
Motion Picture Scripts, 1942-1946

390/10/13/2

Box             Files
5               Advance Agent to Africa
                Adventures of a Rookie
                The Adventure of Smilin Jack
                Adventures of the Flying Cadets
                Aerial Gunner
                The Affairs of Susan
                African Victory

6               Air Force
                Air Raid
                Alaskan Highway
                Alcan Highway
                Allison-Indianapolis, Indiana
                All Out
                America Can Give It
                America
                America - The Magic Land

7               Army Champions
                Army, Navy and Marines
                Army Show
                Army Surgeon
                Army Wives
                Around the World
                Assembly Lines of Victory
                Bataan Patrol

8               The Beginning of the End (The Life and Times of Dr. Lise 
                    Milner)
                A Bell for Adano
                The Bell Telephone Co
                Back from the Sword
                The Best Years of Our Lives

9               Betrayal from the East
                Beyond the Line of Duty
                Blood and Salvation
                Bombardier

10              Boomtown, DC
                The Buck Private?s Return
                The Bugle Sounds
                Bursting Out at the Seams
                Bride By Mistake (That Hunter Girl)
                By the People
                The Cab Driver and the Gentleman
                Cadet Girl
                Call of Duty
                Canal Zone
                Candy Cane
                Canterville Ghost
                Captain Midnight

11              Children of Tragedy
                China?s Little Devils
                Christmas Holiday
                Cinderella Jones
                The Clock

12              Condors of the Sky
                Connecticut Answers
                Cocktails for Two
                Convict Battalion
                Corpus Christi Bandits
                Cowboy in Manhattan
                Corregidor

13              Crimson Curtain
                Cry Havoc
                Days of Glory
                Dead Reckoning
                Deadline
                Dear Mr. Private
                Defense in Dixie
                Destination Tokyo
                Don Winslow of the Coast Guard
                Doughboys in Ireland
                Dragon Seed
                The Enchanted Cottage

14              The Eve of St Mark
                Escape in the Desert (Strangers in Our Midst)
                Eyes Aloft
                Eyes in the Night
                Fall In
                The Fighting Engineers
                Fighting General
                The Fighting Quartermaster
                Five Graves to Cairo
                Flight Surgeon
                Flying Fortress
                Flying G-Men
                Flying Tigers
                For the Defense of the America?s
                Forward for Freedom
                Forward March

15              Four Jills in a Jeep
                Future Atomic War and the End of the World
                GI Honeymoon
                GI Joe
                GI War Brides
                God is My Co-Pilot

16              Go Forth
                Gone with the Draft
                The Great Highway
                Ground Crew
                Ground Pilots

17              Gung Ho
                Gunner, Man Those Guns
                A Guy Named Joe

18              The Guys From Lake Chad
                Hands of Victory
                Happy Land
                The Heat?s On (Tropicana)
                Heavenly Days
                Heller Brothers Film - Manufacture of Files
                Here Comes Trouble
                Hey Rookie

19              Hi Beautiful
                Hi Buddy
                High Barbaree
                Hitler Dead or Alive
                Hold Your Horses
                Hollywood Canteen
                Homesick Angel
                How to Weld Aluminum
                The Human Comedy

20              Identity Unknown (Johnny March)
                I Love a Soldier
                I?ll Be Coming Back
                I Love That Guy
                I?ll Be Seeing You
                International Forum
                The Impatient Years
                In Our Own American Way
                In the Meantime, Darling

21              The Imposter
                The Iron Major
                Is Everybody Happy?
                It Happened in Brooklyn
                It?s Smart to Enlist
                Jack London
                Janie

22              Jive Junction
                Johnny Doughboy
                Journey to Yesterday
                Keep Em Flying
                Keep Em Rolling
                Keeper of the Bees
                Keep Your Powder Dry
                The Kid in Upper Four

23              Killer Patrol
                Ladies Courageous (Looking for Trouble)
                When Ladies Fly
                Ladybirds (The Blonde Bomber)
                Last Will and Testament of Tom Smith
                Left at the Post
                A Letter From Bataan
                Let?s Face It

24              Little Mr. Jim
                Lone Star Moonlight
                The Long Grey Line
                Love Em On Leave
                Machines of War
                Maisie Goes to Reno

25              The Man From Washington
                Man Power
                Man the Guns
                Marine Raiders
                March of Time
                March of Music (Ode to Victory)
                Marching On
                Marriage is a Private Affair

26              The Master Race
                Mechanikettes   (Petticoat Army)
                A Medal for Benny
                Men of the Sky
                The Miracle of Morgan?s Creek
                Mr. M and the Pigeons
                Mr. Winkle Goes to War
                Billy Mitchell
                Music for Millions
                My Empty Heart

27              My Favorite Spy
                My Reputation
                Mountain Fighters
                Mug Town
                Music in Manhattan
                McLeod?s Folly
                New Jersey Shows the Way
                No Exception
                Nostrademus IV
                Now is the Time

28              Now That April?s Here
                Now We Are Twenty One
                Objective Burma
                Odds On Your Uncle Sam
                Of These Our People

29              The Old Army Game
                Old Bag of Bolts
                On Parade
                One Man?s War
                P-38
                Panama Hattie
                Parachute Athletes

30              Passage to Marseilles
                Pillow to Post
                Pilot #5
                Pleased to Meet You

31              Prelude to War
                Private Buckaroo
                The Private Letters of Private Dobbs
                Private Nobody
                Private Miss Jones
                Professional Model
                The Purple Heart

32              Radio Bugs
                Rationing
                Ready on the Home Front
                Rear Gunner
                Return of Rin Tin Tin
                Remember Pearl Harbor
                Return of Rusty

33              Reveille with Beverly
                Right About Face
                Right Guy
                The Risen Soldier
                Road to Hollywood
                Roll on Columbia
                Rookie #3
                Rookie Trouble
                Rookies in Burma

34              Rough, Tough and Ready
                Sahara

35              Salute to a Lady
                Salute to Courage (Army Chaplain)
                Scatterwood Swings It
                Secret Agent
                The Secret Code
                Secret Service in Darkest Africa
                See Here, Private Hargrove

36              Seargent Mike
                Sheppherd of the Ozarks
                She?s a Sweetheart
                Shoe Shine Boy
                Since You Went Away
                Sign of the Cross
                Sinclair Motion Picture

37              Snap It Up Again
                Slightly Scandalous
                Six Girls and a Pilot
                Sniffer Soldiers
                Stage Door Canteen
                So Proudly We Hail
                Soldiers in White
                Soldiers Never Die

38              The Southwest Speech Defense
                Special Delivery
                Stand By to Die
                Steel Cavalry
                Something for the Boys
                The Story of Dr Wassell

39              Strictly English
                Sunday Dinner for a Soldier
                Sweet and Hot
                Suzy Que
                Swing Shift Maisie
                Target for Tonight
                Task Force
                Tender Comrade
                The Tennessee Tornado
                There Shall Be Freedom

40              There?s Something About a Soldier
                They Shall Have Faith
                They Shall Not March Alone

41              13 Rue Madelaine
                This is America (Private Smith of the USA)
                Thoroughbreds
                Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo

42              Those Endearing Young Charms
                The Thrill of Romance
                Three Stooge Comedy
                Through Toil and Tears
                Thunderbirds
                Three Hearts for Julia
                Three Little Sisters

43              Tips on Trips
                To Each His Own
                To Greater Vision
                To Help, Aid and Assist
                A Tommy in the USA
                Top Seargent
                Tragic Symphony
                Trip to Greenland
                Til We Meet Again

44              Trombone From Heaven
                Twenty-One Guns For Cookie
                Two Sisters and a Sailor
                The Underdog
                Under Those Wings
                Union Station
                Up in Arms

45              The Very Thought of You
                Walk Away From Em
                Vickie and Her Eagles
                Wanted
                The War Against Mrs. Hadley
                War Boots
                War Dogs
                A Wave. a Wac and a Marine

46              West Point Comedy
                We?ve Never Been Licked
                When a Man?s a Man
                When Johnny Comes Marching Home
                What About Air Raids?
                The White Cliffs of Dover
                Wilson
                Winged Victory

47              Wings for the Eagle
                We Work for Victory - And We Plan For Peace
                Winter Soldier
                Mr. Winkle Goes to War
                Without Love
                Without Notice
                A Woman of My Own
                Women at Arms
                Women in Uniform (Six Girls in Uniform)
                Women at War

Ken Schlessinger
Archives II
Textual Reference Branch
National Archives at College Park
8601 Adelphi Rd
College Park, MD 20740-6001

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